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Post by shellie on Feb 3, 2014 11:44:16 GMT
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Post by shellie on Feb 3, 2014 11:46:23 GMT
Hi Judy and anyone else wanting to join in.
I am food journaling on www.calorieking.com.au. So far I have filled it in every day this month lol. I have noticed I use too many condiments, so I am steering clear of those atm.
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Post by shellie on Feb 5, 2014 21:14:00 GMT
Hi Judy (anyone else interested)
I was out on my walk this morning and something occurred to me and I though I must go and make a post to this thread. Now 1hrs later it has escaped me.
Perhaps it was about food that help with memory loss. lol
I know I did want to mention I have been journaling this month. I got to feeling really bloated, uncomfortable and constipated, so I took 2 Cloxal tabs (it said I could take 2), won't be doing that again in a hurry.
Also just stuck to fluids for most of yesterday just to give stomach a break. Felt better in evening so had normal dinner
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Post by judy on Feb 8, 2014 3:15:39 GMT
Hi shellie thats great food journaling so you can see exactly what you're eating. I don't really like the chart you put up as I'm inclined to eat less carbs. Since I've done that I'm less bloated and have less wind etc TMI?- sorry! DH and I have been having a smoothie with a couple of fruits and veg with yogurt every morning for breakfast for the last 3 weeks .I'm not much of a breakfast person but this is working really well for me and doesn't take to long to prepare. The rest of my eating habits haven't been as good but I will try and start posting here on Monday to be accountable too
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Post by shellie on Feb 9, 2014 9:28:16 GMT
Hi Judy (chart was just a pic to put in there lol. I am 100% Calorie Counting and Logging on Food Diary)
I am filling in the Food Journal daily. Planning ahead, so if I am Cal high for dinner, I choose Cal low for lunch.
Today and tomorrow I am planning extra low cal to see if there is any lose on the scales.
Breakfast - Shake
Lunch - Salad with light Mango dressing
Dinner - Lean Cuisine plus broccoli - approx 1000 -1200 cals plus burned about 200cals walking.
It's hard work and I am not enjoying it and I know I can't (and don't want to) sustain it, but I want to be 100% that its not me logging wrong when I go to the Dr.
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Post by judy on Feb 9, 2014 22:37:08 GMT
Hi Shellie Well I said Is start posting in here from today but its not a good day for me as I have a lunch date, visitors (well just family) for dinner and book club tonight where I supply the snacks and the l/os stay here with me to finish off oh well maybe posting in here will make me as good as I can be today! I did have a busy weekend and did eat and drink too many bad things The scales ended in ??.4 so that need to go down!! Breakfast smoothie- already had it! Lunch- choose good options! coffee Dinner- chicken and salad with a little fried rice Bookclub- no choc but will have ONE wine See how I go
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Post by jilly on Feb 14, 2014 3:44:20 GMT
Thanks Shellie, I am in! :DDoing it together is so much more fun! oxoxo
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Post by judy on Feb 18, 2014 9:21:19 GMT
So after a weekend away with the girls- eating out, wine, chocolate, cheese, wine, chocolate, happy hour on the beach, wine chocolate, fish and chips on the beach I am 1.2 kgs heavier than when I last posted here. DH is also 5 kg heavier than we want him to be and as he has a month off work we are going to do a month of the Dukan diet again. We did a PV day yesterday and a PP day today. 2 days and I haven't cheated at all I hope we are able to do this together as I haven't been too successful on my own!
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Post by shellie on Feb 18, 2014 20:43:44 GMT
So after a weekend away with the girls- eating out, wine, chocolate, cheese, wine, chocolate, happy hour on the beach, wine chocolate, fish and chips on the beach I am 1.2 kgs heavier than when I last posted here. DH is also 5 kg heavier than we want him to be and as he has a month off work we are going to do a month of the Dukan diet again. We did a PV day yesterday and a PP day today. 2 days and I haven't cheated at all I hope we are able to do this together as I haven't been too successful on my own! Hi Judy, I am in a world of dieters frustration here. All this 'B' walking is not doing it for me. And neither is the logging food and 'watching' what I eat. So I'm going to give yours a go....
So PV is Protein and Veg ONLY
PP is Protein ONLY
Could you please tell me a weekly roster of PV and PP (and whatever else I need to know).
And where does milk in coffee and red wine fit into this schedule lol, but seriously I see you say you had wine occasionally. And what about fruit.
Thanks Judy
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Post by judy on Feb 19, 2014 8:44:20 GMT
Shellie, we did the Dukan diet. There is a book and you can get it online too- my library has it. PP is protein only and includes beef, chicken, seafood, eggs, low fat yogurt and milk,, and no fat cheese or cream cheese. You can eatas much as you like. You also have to have 2 tablespoons of oatbran each day. You can have coffee, tea and diet soft drink. You can't have fruit until goal weight PV days you can have veg as well as all proteins listed above but can't have corn, potatoes, peas and they recommend carrots at only 1 meal, You may have noticed I didn't mention red wine haha - not until goal weight! No carbs until goal weight but you can make a Dukan bread with the oatbran, Philly cheese, yogurt, powdered milk and yeast DH and I have both lost 1.8 kg in the last 2 days but that was after an extremely bad long weekend! I think when you put on weight quickly you lose it quickly but we won't expect those results for the next few days! Good Luck and I can explain more as you go. X x
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Post by Elasti-Girl on Feb 20, 2014 1:54:02 GMT
Hi Girls,
Shellie - The 'attack' phase is PP only, then 'Cruise' PP & PV days are alternating days.
Personally I use full cream milk in my oat bran porridge, coffee, tea & eat full fat cheese & I sometimes eat more than 2 eggs a day & I still lose weight.
That said- I need to join back in After a disastrous *ahem* 18 months or so of backsliding & gaining back, I'm pulling my socks up. I feel awful in a bunch of different ways when I'm not on top of it. I need to try & make this diet fit my 'life happens' factor & be a little less hard on myself.
Yesterday I did day 1 (of 3) of attack-
B: shake & bacon L: oat bran toast, vegemite on one half & a fried egg on the other - (Judy I found a microwave recipe for toast) D: chicken schnitzel, bacon & cheese Water - at least 2 litres, 2 coffees, 1 tea, 1 can pepsi max
& I've lost 500gr this morning & already feel more clear-headed. So attack day 2 today!
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Post by shellie on Feb 20, 2014 12:46:48 GMT
Thanks girls
Elasti - What is your shake?
Do you remove the crumbs from the Chicken Snitzel?
What is the brand of oat bran?
And what is bran toast?
I am so desperate...all this walking, all the cal counting and logging food is doing nothing. I am getting more and depressed over it. Still need to get my blood work checked. Just being pulled in too many other different directions atm to deal with my need to see Dr and get blood work request. I have always been able to see some progress (however slow) in the past, but this time around (and there have been too many turns of doing this) I am seeing NO progress yet (after almost 2months).
Actually I have found this site and I think it might answer some of my questions
thedukandietsite.com/
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Post by Elasti-Girl on Feb 21, 2014 3:48:39 GMT
Oh Shellie please don’t be disheartened. There may well be a medical issue that’s gone undetected? You’ve done so much & worked so hard, but if you can do the Dukan safely (medically speaking), it’s so worth it.
If you go to this website www.dukandiet.co.uk & use the calculator tool - (you can ‘sign up’, use the tool to get your chart, print it off or copy & paste it, log out & not have to pay for anything) - it will give you a plan for the time frames you’ll need for each phase.
The shake I get is the Atkins Advantage (choc or vanilla) in a tin for about $19 I think. It’s not on the Dukan list & it’s not no carb, but very low carb, something like 2.6gr. (best made with a stick blender, it thickens it up a bit & mixes properly) I don't have it everyday, just sometimes as a quick breakfast substitute or as another drink during the day.
The chicken schnitzel I had the other night was the frozen ‘tenders’ that you can get (Inghams or Birdseye I think), grilled in the oven & yes I should take the crumbs off, but no, I don’t. (wrong I know, but I still lose weight doing that).
Another thing is no real sugar in your coffee (if you take it) - use a substitute or go cold turkey.
The oat bran I prefer is Lowan’s. (a yellow packet found near the rolled oats) I’ve used home brand & it’s just not as good quality, but it depends on what you have available in your local shops.
I know Judy has a good recipe for a loaf of oat bran bread, you might prefer that. I haven’t tried that recipe yet so I can’t say. The one I found recently is super easy & fast (microwavable) & only has 4 ingredients. (I can post it in the recipes thread if you like) Because on Dukan you need to eat oat bran every day, it’s nice to have a variety of ways to eat it. (I just made a beef, cheese & bacon burger for my PP lunch with it - again, not really right with the rules - full fat cheese, bacon & tomato sauce here)
(maybe you should listen to Judy not me - I really only follow the rules loosely - )
Well, that got wordy, I don't mean to be bossy, if it comes across that way, I'm sorry - but I really hope that helps in some way, I hate to see you unhappy.
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Post by shellie on Feb 21, 2014 4:04:13 GMT
Hi Elasti
Just got home from work and grocery shopping. I ended up finding Oat Bran, only 2 to choose from so I picked the organic. I shopped the best I could. Eggs, Chicken, Fish, Prawns (I hope they are allowed), Oat Bran, Wheat Bran (only homebrand available), NO Fat Yoghurt - plain and vanilla flavoured, Some tuna and salmon cans, skim milk and stevia powder sachets. And vanilla. That should keep me going over the weekend. Now I just need to look up some recipes.
Thank you so much for answering my questions. I will look at that website too. I saw the DUKAN book while I was shopping with SYS on Monday but didn't buy it as I wasn't convinced that day that I could do it, but I really am seeing this as desperate measures to kick start my system into gear.
When things settle down around here a little I will get that blood work done. I am thinking it's either Menopause (or Peri-Menopause) or Thyroid. It's certainly NOT lack of trying.
So far today I had an Egg and Bacon Roll (minus the sauce and the roll) and 2 instant coffees with skim milk and NO SUGAR. And a can of Tuna in Spring Water and a Salmon snack thingy from Aldi minus the bread. And my water.
Ok time to get this groceries put away, put 'load a day' in the machine and find some recipes.
Thanks again Elasti, I will listen to what both you and Judy have to say about this as you have both had good results. I just wish I hadn't been so stubborn about giving it a go before now.
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Post by Elasti-Girl on Feb 21, 2014 4:22:33 GMT
Shellie don't beat yourself up ((hug))
Absolutely prawns are allowed, any meat is good. Ham is good for snacking too.
I'm going to post the couple of recipes I have in the recipes thread.
If your attack plan is 6 days, some sort of fibre to help things along will probably be needed - Benefibre I find personally isn't hard on the stomach, has zero sugar, dissolves in water & is tasteless. Once you get onto the Cruise phase, you should have no problems because VEGIES. The good news is - the exercise is really a side bonus thing - meaning walking for fun & because you gain energy - not a necessary evil you have to kill yourself with.
The true secret is knowing where carbs & sugars hide, they're sneaky little buggers.
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